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[ community tier ][ updated 2026-09-23 ][ confidence medium ][ jev-1.13.0 ]#ideas · builds · agents · coding-agents · browser-use
TL;DR 35 builds (sweep of 2026-09-23). Jev never runs the loop: it answers one bounded question per step (which tool, keep this chunk, is this test at risk, is this fact still true) while code owns options, thresholds and verification. Two careful A/B tests came out negative (jev-harness, JevLoop): read them before promising speed.
How to read. Builder reports = the builder's own numbers, one run on their own workload, unverified. API claims checked against Models, aliases, pricing, rate limits, context, State: what you send Jev, Choice questions. OpenRouter/Vercel gateway routes are not in TypeSafe's docs (Measurements, access routes and open replicas). Pattern IDs: P01-P11, P35-P37 in Patterns: agent internals, context and coding agents; P12-P14, P34 in Patterns: browser, computer use, voice and product UI; P15-P18, P24-P27 in Patterns: judging, search, documents, real-time and markets; P22-P23 in Patterns: marketing, sales, GTM, content, support and ops.
Coding agents and harnesses
| Build |
Jev decides |
Builder reports |
P |
| jev-harness-router (Joaquin Marcoff) |
Per turn, one call of ~20 questions: score difficulty and scope (code maps them to model tier and effort), noul per tool plus a ranking choice, skill choice gated by 4 nouls |
181 labelled turns: skill exact 90.0% vs 59.4% keyword baseline; tier too cheap 3.3% vs 19.9%; p50 351-376 ms; $0.169 per 1,000 turns (matches $0.042/Mtok, verified); one 20-question call 2.5x cheaper, 24x faster than 20 calls. Without the previous reply in state it lost to regex (exact tier 34.6% vs 69.3%) |
P02, P08 |
| Oko (Bartlomiej Tyrpien) |
MCP code search: BM25 keeps 30 chunks, one Jev call scores all 30 (~0.5 s), top 3 returned whole |
162 sessions: Claude Code 31% faster, Codex 18%, OpenCode 15%, 20-42% fewer agent tokens; speed came only after an AGENTS.md/CLAUDE.md rule on when to stop searching |
P17 |
| slopcheck (TJ Klug) |
CI verdict on a diff: 18 patterns (16 noul, 2 score) on the whole diff, plus a noul per code-enumerated candidate line; hundreds of questions, one request |
Fixture: 9,629 input tokens, 0.7 s; whole build $0.91 over 2,479 requests. Rewording one question: 0.06 → 0.84; goal first in state: 0.33 → 0.93; rerun drift ≤ 0.05. Compound checks split into two nouls joined in code |
P10 |
| jev-auto-approve (MetalBear, runs on mirrord) |
GitHub Action: 3 nouls (ready to merge, covered by tests, needs a human); approves only if each clears the threshold (default 0.9, mirrord 0.95) |
No accuracy figures. Adds a "touches privileged automation" question; warns diff and discussion are untrusted input |
P03, P06 |
| jev-test-filter (mizchi) |
4-level score per test against the git diff; run at ≥ 2.0; low-confidence answers near the cutoff run anyway; any failure runs everything |
110 tests, 1 request: 3 selected, 23,423 input tokens, 1,296 ms, $0.00098 (price math verified). Reruns picked 8, then 7 |
P17 |
| jev-harness (AstroHan) |
noul per ~2k-char chunk of each tool result ("needed for this step?"), keep at p > 0.5, raw kept for read; fails open |
30-task prototype 25/30 vs 22/30; TB4 follow-up (49 pairs) 2 vs 5 passes, +11.78% input tokens, +8.17% cost: experiment closed. Adding the agent's intent to state cut wrongly elided read-backs 33 → 12 |
P07 |
| pi-jev (Max Lv) |
Pi extension: word-overlap shortlist of 12 excerpts, Jev ranks direct evidence; optional skill choice, tool-output filter, 60 s cache, circuit breaker |
Tool-output filter cut input tokens 55% but raised wall time against a fast hosted generator; thresholds untuned |
P08, P07 |
| sift-light (u/Deep_Bus_7488) |
Optional judge over local code-search hits, batches of ≤ 8 and 64 KiB; 413 splits a batch |
Returns partial status (batchesFailed, candidatesUnjudged), never a bare success/fail |
P17 |
| Jive (u/merijjeyn) |
Terminal coding agent: tool calls replaced by DAGs of tool and Jev calls; LLM only for hard reasoning |
Six self-chosen tasks: 1m41s-3m26s vs Codex 6m00s-29m33s, Claude Code 3m04s-32m02s |
P01, P37 |
Browser, mobile and computer use
| Build |
Jev decides |
Builder reports |
P |
| Hunch (u/HAR5HA_7663) |
Accessibility snapshot → operation and element, one request; hands off to the outer LLM on low confidence, a stalled page or a risky click; success checked in code |
153 ms median vs 678 ms gpt-4o-mini, both 24/24; 4-step form 3.4 s; same input moves p ~0.05. Typed values never reach Jev |
P12, P06 |
| Stagehand loop (@kylejeong) |
Accessibility tree as state, actions as options; Stagehand executes |
$0.001 for one task on a remote browser |
P12 |
| Second-hand shopping (@AlanDaitch) |
Playwright + Jev per listing: discard, bid, or message the seller |
~26 listings/min, 406 ms per decision, USD 0.00085 for the search. It placed bids: money needs a P03 gate |
P12, P17 |
| jevcumber (Michael Poage) |
Gherkin step → action kind, control, which quoted literal, submit or not, all picked from the live page |
~1 s per step; refuses below 0.6 (0.75 for page-sourced values); lockfile replays in CI with no API calls |
P12 |
| agent-device QA (Mike Grabowski, Callstack) |
Mobile accessibility snapshot → choice over press/fill/scroll/wait plus pass/fail/incomplete; text to type is baked into the option |
14 s run, $0.0023. systemOne + choice() matches JavaScript/TypeScript SDK quick contract: install, client, choice/score/noul, answers, errors (the page a builder reads) (verified) |
P14 |
| Screenshot-free computer use (@milindlabs) |
On-device segmentation + OCR turn the screen into a text list; Jev picks what to click, in a loop |
~90 ms per decision |
P14 |
| WeChat group bot (reviewed by @VersunPan) |
Jev + DeepSeek over the Android accessibility tree, screenshot + local OCR fallback, last 10 messages |
No numbers; warns WeChat can detect it and ban the account |
P14 |
| Jev-in-the-Loop (Tongyun1) |
Codex plugin on jev-ultrafast: Codex plans and prepares the text to type; Jev picks action, target and input per step in local Chrome; stops at a handoff page (booking form) |
Demos only, no numbers |
P12 |
Agent orchestration, memory and guards
| Build |
Jev decides |
Builder reports |
P |
| Metaview (@s16h_) |
Production, every agent: split into small semantic questions with own thresholds; bugs fixed by adding a question |
Sourcing searches minutes → seconds, "same accuracy, ~10x faster" |
P01 |
| JevLoop (zjunlp) |
7 loop decisions (act?, tool, file, risk score, step ok, done, deliverable) compiled from a DECISION.md; LLM only writes |
Hosted Jev ~390 ms per decision, 79% of wall clock. vs ReAct, 7 tasks: 5.9 s vs 3.4 s, 1 vs 3 LLM calls, 105 vs 360 output tokens, 6/7 vs 7/7 accepted. 78 ms of a 332 ms call is compute |
P04, P03 |
| jev-mcp-dispatcher (abhishekashokvkumar) |
NL → MCP tool choice; enum args choice; string args by a noul per word (value is always a literal substring); action count choice 1-5 |
Proof of concept; no confidence gate, optional params not skipped (author's list). Compare Cookbook: Function calling |
P13 |
| invalidate (chopratejas) |
6 nouls per memory × event (bears on, still true, replaces, partial, hypothetical, directive); code applies the verdict; retiring a fact needs a second vote |
157 cases: 89.2% strict, 97.5% lenient, 0 false invalidations; $0.00006 per check; 20,000 memories vs one event: $0.110, 8.9 s |
P09 |
| jev-gc (u/Maleficent_College57) |
Per OTel span: keep, compress to pointer, or archive; rules first, Jev only for ambiguous relevance |
No numbers; false eviction unmeasured |
P07 |
| AgentMail (u/uriwa) |
Every outbound agent email: genuine or abusive bulk; flagged sends rejected with 400 |
Replaced a reply-karma scheme; "latency overhead is negligible" beside SMTP |
P16, P03 |
| Port Cleanup (Epiphany Dynamics) |
macOS app: verdict per listening process (stop / keep / your decision) over a local evidence dossier |
Kill advice needs ≥ 0.8; a human confirms every stop |
P03, P06 |
| ADK storyboard guard (JimmyLiao) |
noul on a Gemini ADK storyboard segment: does the text fit its duration? flag > 0.6 |
1 of 4 hand-written segments flagged (0.77). Reading time vs seconds is numeric (Jev 1.13 jaggedness: known failure modes): fit poor |
P16 |
| Robot-fleet triage (chorylee) |
Per simulated incident: escalate noul, owning team choice, urgency score 0-2 |
300/300 calls; p50 0.53 s, p95 0.81 s; $0.00737 total; 91.3% agreement with template labels, not real faults |
P22, P06 |
| Tool-use benchmarks (baibizhe) |
Tool selection and call-or-abstain as choice (benchmark, not a build) |
When2Call 74.84% accuracy but picked tool_call on 197 of 258 no-tool cases; BFCL relevance 87.50% (16 cases), irrelevance 86.74% |
P13, P02 |
| jev-eval-agent (vinilana) |
eve agent, 100 mocked tools: per step one choice over the tools + respond_to_user (101 ≤ 255 cap, verified); only the pick reaches the LLM; a done noul below 0.5 blocks the reply |
Steps, cost and look-alike wrong tools vs the LLM seeing all 100, 6 tasks; results versioned in the repo, not captured |
P13, P06 |
| HeyJev shouldideploy (u/geisbruch, nullplatform team) |
18 typed questions on a described deploy (tests, rollback, availability); code turns probabilities into a verdict; questions editable |
Public demo, not a gate: checks neither CI nor rollback. Suggested test: drop the rollback info, compare answers |
P23 |
Games and simulators
| Build |
Jev decides |
Builder reports |
P |
| minecraft-agent (rmalde) |
LLM planner sets objective; Jev picks one action from harness-built options; Mineflayer executes |
Ender Dragon from a fresh world in 8:43: 131 Jev decisions, 35 planner calls |
P24 |
| hermes-and-jev-play-minecraft (Teknium) |
Same split, Hermes Agent plans |
Reproduced in 7:45 for $0.963 ($0.010 Jev); controller median 211-227 ms; an LLM controller ~8x slower, ~20x the cost. Bad picks fixed by changing the options offered |
P24 |
| jev-plays-pokemon-red (valentynkit) |
Code owns route and arithmetic; Jev only at branches |
Median 621 ms (n=6, gateway shim), $0.14/hour; calibration withheld, sample too small |
P24 |
| Browser game timing (@umezawakanta13) |
Next action from game state |
Jev HTTP 490.3 ms median inside 1,139.8 ms state-to-action (3 responses) |
P24 |
Interface elements
| Build |
Jev decides |
Builder reports |
P |
| jev-skip (valentynkit) |
Captions in 30 s segments, one choice each (sponsor, intro, content …) in one request; seek bar tinted by probability |
77% of crowd-marked sponsor seconds on 23 videos, 34 s false skips per hour, $0.0008 per video (gateway shim) |
P34, P27 |
| X timeline labeler (@the_cyw) |
Chrome extension labels each post clean, engagement bait, promo, secondhand or filler |
$0.03 per 1,000 posts |
P34, P16 |
What these builds teach when advising
- The options are the product. Both Minecraft builds, jevcumber and agent-device fixed bad picks by changing what code offers (drop finished actions, bake the text into the option), not by rewording.
- What goes in
state decides accuracy. The router lost to regex until it got the previous reply; jev-harness needed the agent's intent; slopcheck gained by putting goal first (Writing instructions and criteria that Jev reads correctly).
- Hosted latency can eat the win. JevLoop (79% of wall clock), jev-harness (closed) and pi-jev (slower) balance Oko and Jive. Batch questions per call, set a deadline with a fallback, measure (Testing and evaluating a Jev workflow).
- Keep "done" and irreversible acts in code. Hunch verifies success itself; auto-approve, Port Cleanup and JevLoop gate risk with hard rules and a human; the bidding shopper needs one.
- Fail toward safety. test-filter runs everything on error, sift-light reports partial, invalidate needs two votes to retire a fact.
- Test abstention. Jev chose a tool on 197 of 258 no-tool cases; offer
none/other (Choice questions) or ask a separate noul.
- Decision patterns from the community (with fit verdicts) — pattern index; Consult guide: could Jev help this project? — "could Jev help this project?"
- Builds: data, content, business, games and devices, Tools and integrations: MCP servers, skills, clients, gateways and libraries, Head-to-head: Jev against other models and methods, Failure reports: where Jev broke, lost, or was the wrong tool, Patterns: gates, simulation, personas and other shapes (P38+) — sibling sweep pages
- Repos: coding agents, orchestration, memory, browser and computer use, integrations — earlier repo captures; How to build software with System One — official build guidance
Sources
Links are inline in each row; the raw captures (2026-09-23) are listed in the frontmatter.